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Post by thomasallencummins on Nov 21, 2007 10:20:56 GMT -5
TURKEY OR HAM?
At Thanksgiving it is traditional to have turkey and in that regard I'm fine with it. Turkey can be wonderful. I am of course the poor goob that has to carve Mr. Tom every year as well. At Christmas we traditionally have Ham. As much as I like turkey and look forward to Thanksgiving I really prefer ham by a wide margin. If it didn't threaten to shake the pillars of the universe I'd suggest the idea of having ham for all special events.
But that's just me. Don't get me wrong I can't wait for Turkey Day but... ;D
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Post by Cad Zombie on Nov 21, 2007 22:28:17 GMT -5
Shame on you Atomic, Ham is from swine, and swine are unclean animals.
Deuteronomy 14:
8. "And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass". KJV
As for Turkey,.....
Leviticus 11:
13. "And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray, 14. And the vulture, and the kite after his kind; 15. Every raven after his kind; 16. And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind, 17. And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl, 18. And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle, 19. And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat". KJV
Looks like the turkey is safe,....eat hearty!
T
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Post by Avatar on Nov 22, 2007 0:25:40 GMT -5
LMAO. I don't like turkey much at all. If by ham you mean gammon, I'm all for that. --A
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Post by ram on Nov 22, 2007 11:19:25 GMT -5
The turkey vs. ham debate is like coke vs. pepsi. Some days I feel like having one, some days the other, but I like both just fine.
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Post by Avatar on Nov 22, 2007 22:56:00 GMT -5
Haha, I'm the opposite. Coke only for me. Which makes pepsi turkey I guess. LOL. --A (Edit: Oh, hey Tom, was chatting to Dlb at the Watch... he has a baked ham on thanksgiving... (I assume that's your equivalent of roast gammon. )
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Post by thomasallencummins on Nov 25, 2007 9:01:06 GMT -5
Haha, I'm the opposite. Coke only for me. Which makes pepsi turkey I guess. LOL. --A (Edit: Oh, hey Tom, was chatting to Dlb at the Watch... he has a baked ham on thanksgiving... (I assume that's your equivalent of roast gammon. ) RIGHT ON BROTHER! I'M ALL COKE. I'll drive past a pepsi machine three miles on bald tires to buy a coke. :-)
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Post by Avatar on Nov 25, 2007 23:59:42 GMT -5
LOL Yeah...well the reason here is that Pepsi left the country during apartheid. Wouldn't do business with us. Coke stayed though. So two generations here only had coke.
You better believe this is a tough market for Pepsi. They're actually on their second attempt to break into it right now. Their first, a few years back, failed miserably and they pulled out again until recently.
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Post by dANdeLION on Nov 26, 2007 8:40:15 GMT -5
So, Pepsi took a stance against apartheid and now is paying for it? If that's so, then Yay Pepsi, and boo to those who hate them. Of course, I may be misreading this, but one thing's for sure; Thanksgiving and turkey were made for each other.
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Post by Avatar on Nov 26, 2007 23:15:03 GMT -5
Hahaha, no, you're exactly right. It was a great moral decision. But a bad business one. I just hate them because their product tastes bad. To me. Indoctrinated by the evil capitalist coke-empire. (I mean that. ;D ) --A
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Post by Cad Zombie on Nov 29, 2007 20:59:42 GMT -5
Avatar, from what I see on Wiki, Gammon is a cut of bacon.
When we say "Ham" we are talking about a different cut of pork from a different portion of the animal that has alot less fat in the meat, and is usually roasted or baked with a honey glaze.
Very tasty, but bad for you health wise.
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Post by thomasallencummins on Dec 5, 2007 8:58:18 GMT -5
Mmmmmm.....bacon......
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Post by sweetpea on Dec 6, 2007 5:36:43 GMT -5
Yes Atomic, it WOULD threaten the pillars of the universe and everything else. Since I am the one standing in the kitchen slaving, we are having what I want..and though I agree with you totally about loving ham more, I am not going against every tradition, commerical and cooking show to make a ham for Thanksgiving. So there. I have spoken. And CZ, if everything I ate was biblically based and bound, I would be alot thinner and alot angrier. And finally, are we talking about ham and turkey?..or Coke and Pepsi? Personally I like water.
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Post by dANdeLION on Dec 6, 2007 8:02:21 GMT -5
If CadZombie was truly interested in following the Bible, I seriously doubt he'd name himself after the undead servants of Satan. No, I'm afraid CZ has no such standards. Still, turkey is what is proper for thanksgiving, and ham is offered for Christmas as an option for those who had turkey leftovers every day for a month after thanksgiving.
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Post by menolly on Dec 12, 2007 10:37:26 GMT -5
...stepping in as one of the mods of The Galley on the Watch... Av... HamChr-stmas HamAre either what you mean by gammon? Although Jewish, my dh, and hence my FIL, are not. We celebrate a very secularized Chr-stmas with him to honor his heritage. And while I'll eat deli-sliced ham on sandwiches and stuff, I have never made a baked smoked ham. Cooking such was never part of my own upbringing. So Chr-stmas dinner here is usually a 4-rib standing rib roast (about the only time I can justify the cost) and Yorkshire pudding, along with tons of other items. Followed by some really tender beef stroganoff with the planned over roast a few days later.
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Post by thomasallencummins on Dec 13, 2007 15:12:32 GMT -5
Rib Roast! Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........nice.
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